Author Topic: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling  (Read 2812 times)

Salan

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Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« on: October 15, 2013, 01:03:39 PM »
Wolfpack does not scale correctly with synergies.  Starting lower level with the skill it does next to nothing, as stated by many people enough times that even I notice it over the last year.


how do we scale this one
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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 03:48:10 PM »
I suggest:
lv1    35% wdps + flat damage
lv15  70% wdps + flat damage
+2.5% per skill level

And the flat damage currently seems to only scale with the player's level.
So I suggest the flat damage part should start at a higher point, and grow slower than vanilla.
But the scale factor needs some tests.
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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2013, 12:05:25 PM »
I'm not sure the weapondps AND flat damage is ideal... that would make this skill really powerful compared to most anything the berserker can do.

was just looking at the file for the skill

   [EFFECT]
      <STRING>ACTIVATION:DYNAMIC
      <STRING>DURATION:INSTANT
      <INTEGER>LEVEL:1
      <STRING>TYPE:DAMAGE
      <STRING>DAMAGE_TYPE:PHYSICAL
      <BOOL>USEOWNERLEVEL:true
      <FLOAT>MIN:60
      <FLOAT>MAX:100
      <FLOAT>MINFORCE:0
      <FLOAT>MAXFORCE:0
   [/EFFECT]

its on the graph for the player level.. so hmm
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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 04:07:35 PM »

What do these four lines actually mean?
      <FLOAT>MIN:60
      <FLOAT>MAX:100
      <FLOAT>MINFORCE:0
      <FLOAT>MAXFORCE:0
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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 06:59:02 PM »
thats the damage rate.  you take the players level vs the skill level find hte point on the graph where this intersects those numbers and find out how much damage it actually does.
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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 08:14:27 PM »
Did you ever figure out what FORCE means?

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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 11:27:42 PM »
I donno what the final damage equation looks like.
But I guess the FORCE is something related with the skill effective level.
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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 11:29:22 PM »
its either effectiveness or something to do with moving you with the damage.. im not so sure thou
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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 02:46:41 PM »
I'm not sure the weapondps AND flat damage is ideal... that would make this skill really powerful compared to most anything the berserker can do.

char lvl 100, 166 focus, rank 15 wolf pack

70%wpds + 1898-3163 flat physical

I can't comment on how that compares to other chars but doesn't seem all that much. 

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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2013, 05:02:53 PM »
I'm not sure the weapondps AND flat damage is ideal... that would make this skill really powerful compared to most anything the berserker can do.

char lvl 100, 166 focus, rank 15 wolf pack

70%wpds + 1898-3163 flat physical

I can't comment on how that compares to other chars but doesn't seem all that much.

What is your weapon and Strength and attack speed by the way? Do you have DoTs or Spell trigger on your weapon?
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Re: Focus 1G: Wolfpack damage scaling
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2013, 05:32:34 PM »
160% weapon damage from 512 strength

I'm using Achlys sword with 2x Vellinque skulls (+200 physical each).  It comes out to a listed 1864 dps.  The sword has %chance to cast eviscerate but that doesnt apply to wolfpack (at least not visually).

15% cast speed bonus.
0% attack speed.
76% physical damage bonus (does that apply to wolfpack?  If so to just the flat damage?)

No dots.